When I started hanging out with Charismatics, something that struck me very quickly about them that looked quite different from many of the believers I grew up around was how much patience and effort they showed to listen to the Holy Spirit in everyday conversations, prayer, or counseling times. I think the foundational belief of Charismatics in the continuation of the gifts of the Spirit for the modern day generally compels them toward a greater desire to walk in and hear from the Spirit every second of the day. As a result, you’ll hear a lot more language in Charismatic churches of “what the Holy Spirit is saying,” both to the church and the individual.
Strengths: I love that Charismatics want to hear from God and have the faith to believe that He actually wants to guide them through everyday life. Some of my worst decisions in life and most regrettable ministry experiences involve me thinking that I’m quite capable in my own wisdom of of doing just about everything I’ll ever need for a great life. Had I simply taken the time to inquire of the Holy Spirit as to who he was making me to be, or what he was up to in my friends’ lives, I could have avoided some really dark and painful circumstances.
Since hanging out with more Charismatics, I’ve found that in my conversations with others, I’ve become significantly more sensitive to what God is doing in their hearts and lives, and have become increasingly bold in declaring God’s truth over them. A lot of my speech has taken on an authority that just wasn’t there before (call it “growing in the prophetic” if you will), because my words are grounded in a deep conviction of specific truth that God is highlighting for the person across the table from me rather than taking some stabs in the dark as to wisdom that might be helpful for them. I’ve come to a deeper understanding of my own need to hear from God in order to do anything of eternal value (John 15:4-8), and it’s been incredibly humbling for me.
Something that’s also been pretty challenging and eye-opening is a practice that the leadership at Antioch Community Church: Wheaton has of beginning a prayer time three hours before the Sunday morning service to ask God what He wants to do that morning. This time doesn’t determine the all the programming for the service, but it allows the pastor, prayer leader, and worship leader some time to adjust and examine what they’re going to be doing that morning in light of what God is doing in their Body. This attentiveness to the Spirit feels much more life-giving than the idea of deciding all the church programming for a service weeks in advance, and just sticking strictly to the plan Sunday morning because that’s what was decided to be best weeks ago. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong about that method, because I think God can speak three weeks before a Sunday service in the same way He can speak that morning, I’m only saying that the idea of just “going with the program” all the time makes me a bit uneasy.
Generally, the thing that makes most evangelicals cringe about this sort of talk is the potential lack of responsibility for and testing of a so-called “word from God”. But I think a lot of churches with Charismatic influence do a pretty good job of teaching responsibility in hearing from God. I think the following clip from Bethel (among the most influential Charismatic churches in the United States) is a great conversation on some ways to practically discern the voice of the Holy Spirit.
Dangers: As with any practice in any church that invites God to move powerfully on behalf of his people, I think Satan really wants to hijack this intent desire to hear from the Holy Spirit, and turn it in some pretty dark directions. I think he wants to accuse Christians that silence from the Holy Spirit is actually spiritual deficiency in the heart of the believer.
Since many of the Charismatics I’ve been around are enthusiastic to tell others “what the Spirit is telling them”, I’ve noticed among some of the younger believers in these churches an incredible uncertainty in how and when God is speaking to them. This tends to have less to do with false teaching by church leaders, and more to do with lack of personal direction in what it means to walk with and hear from God from more seasoned believers with more developed faculties of spiritual discernment.
What I mean is, when a believer who is not well-versed in God’s word doesn’t seem to be getting nuggets of spiritual truth dropped from the heavens on a regular basis during their quiet times with God like it seems their leaders are, they can very subtly drift into a way of thinking that Christians have to attain a certain level of holiness just to hear from Him. I’ve heard subtle implications of this in the tones and laments of many younger Charismatics.
This, then, can evolve into a soul-destroying effort to attain this level of holiness by their own power, and if all their striving doesn’t produce the kind of faith that gets the Holy Spirit on speed dial, they may spiral into self-contempt. I found myself headed down this path a bit in my own mind as I spent time in some of the churches. I wanted to “increase in anointing” so as to hear God like the heavy hitters. But when I felt the spirit of Law inside of me, I began to repent. Just before the self-contempt came.
The comfortable alternative to self-contempt, of course, would be to convince yourself that your own voice is actually God’s, telling yourself things that sound spiritual or affirming, and calling it the Holy Spirit (which, as harmless as it may sound, is an idolatry of self and a horrible way of taking God’s name in vain). If you’re convinced that God is always talking to the really spiritual people among you, it’s far more emotionally bearable to hear your own voice in your prayer times and call it God than to believe that He isn’t talking.
Because that that would make you a nobody.
So then, when we’re pretty sure that in our prayer time before heading to the mall, God highlighted a lady in a lime green jacket for us to talk to and pray for (known to some as a pre-treasure hunt prayer time), and no such lady seems to exist after searching the whole place, we of little faith (i.e. me) begin to think that there’s either no God or He doesn’t talk to me like He does to other people, presumably because there’s something wrong with me.
Now, don’t hear me saying that every Charismatic responds this way or is susceptible to this thinking. The leaders I’ve met in these churches readily admit that often the lady in the green coat never shows up, and they’re secure enough to know that sometimes they don’t hear God quite right, or perhaps God has a purpose in giving them a vision that isn’t fulfilled right away. And I have no problem with that whatsoever. I just think there comes a great danger in telling younger believers of all the exciting stories of God speaking without being equally transparent about His silence and the disappointment we can feel, because it can lend itself to some pretty harmful false expectations. This is not necessarily a problem with Charismatic churches, but it is definitely a challenge for all of them.
I find it very comforting that passages like Acts 1:20-26 and Acts 15 show the Apostles asking God for help, and then doing something like casting lots or talking it out with each other, and just going with the decision, using language like “It seemed best to the Holy Spirit and to us to ______.” rather than “The Holy Spirit has clearly spoken to us saying _____.” The wording in these passages strongly suggests to me that the Holy Spirit didn’t clearly speak some clear direction in audible words to them, and if anyone should be hearing clear voices, it should be these guys. That makes me feel much better when I just have a sense of what God wants, and just go for it, rather than waiting on some magic moment in my prayer time to hear a clear direction from God.
The truth is, I think God is silent all the time. And I really like that. It woos me into deeper relationship with Him. If He responded to me with the answer I wanted every time, I’d never have to draw close to Him, never have to wait with Him or mourn with Him, and I’d probably expect Him to start waiting on me, answering my every beck and call. If you’re like me and the early Apostles of the church, and you don’t always hear a clear voice from God for all the direction in your life, you can rejoice in knowing that God is still good in keeping silent, and that He has a great love and purpose for us in doing so.
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Mikey,
Thanks for sharing! I totally can relate to the issues you brought up. I wish I could find a church like Antioch in Houston. After recently being more exposed to more Charismatics at World Mandate in Waco, I’m more and more fascinated and drawn to the power of the Holy Spirit. I’m so glad we can relate to each other on that. I miss you and love you and can’t wait to see you again.
Jessica Schulte
I agree mostly with what you have shared. I would rather be a Charismatic that to be anywhere else. Of course there will always be problems with the human factor in every revival or movement.
Charismatics DO NOT EMPHASIS THE VOICE OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE SCRIPTURE as others speculate, rather they teach that THE VOICE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES NOT CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE, BUT CONFIRMS IT.
The evangelical/fundamentalist movement tries to twist scriptures to say what ‘it does not say’. for example that the days of the miracleous and manifestations of the Spirit of God among His people is over by twisting 1 Cor 13:8-12. rather interprete scriptures in the light of scriptures, they quote theologians who had missed it ages ago.
They are also very berbally abusive of anyone who does not see in he same light as themselves. On the other hand the Charismatic/pentecostal leaders continually pray for them and NEVER FIGHT BACK! In as much as good education is admirable, many theologians have gone to the wrong schools and had educated their minds at the expense of their spirit.
Satan is sponsoring so many theological cemetries called seminaries to oppose the move of God in these last days.
I stopped following the evangelical/fundamentalists because they lack the fruit of the spirit.
The average charismatic knows hi/her Bible more than any other section of the universal church, and they are quick to evangelise and stick out their necks for Christ
Femi, I’m sorry that the fundamentalists and evangelicals that you’ve known have lacked the fruit of the Spirit to you. I’m also really glad that the Charismatic leaders you’ve known are dedicated to praying for other believers and “quick to evangelise”. As you probably know, John 17:22-23 shows it’s Jesus’s will that all believers be brought to complete unity. I know that can be hard to do with people who seem hard-hearted, but I wonder if perhaps you put aside some of those negative conceptions of fundamentalists and evangelicals, and made a concerted effort to love them the way Christ does (as you’ve seen modeled by the Charismatic believers in your life), if you might see some of those more negative attributes in them begin to soften and turn around. Maybe they do have the Spirit somewhere in there after all
Waoo Mikey, that reply makes you a Chrismatic/Pentecostal! (lol). You are right with what you have said. I love everyone equaly. You are quite nice with your corrections, it is recieved with thanks. When the LIGHT of the WORD began to flicker in Lurther’s times, the Roman Catholich Church almost killed him like they slaughtered thousands ‘just for bearing witness to the truth’. In reading Church History, I see the pattern always repeating itself, some guys disagreed with Luther and they were hounded like animals and ‘quatered’ or drowned. Docrine is a very powerful tool, but without us ‘LOVING’ each other, regardless of their convictions, then we will be true disciples indeed.
I believe everyone who truly recieves Jesus as LORD has the Holy Spirit within them; on that note he or she is my brother/sister in Christ.
I read an advert the other day in Christian Magazine; a church requires the services of a Minister, then they added (he must be non-charismatic).. I had a big laugh. I wanted to worship in a church with a different tradion, so I called up a church number, the minister answered the call and I told him ‘I would like to worship in a non-charismatic church this weekend’ he answered,’ oh sorry, we are charismatic because we use the Songs of Praise’ Oh boy, I laughed on the phone so hard the minister asked what was wrong? of course I told him all is well. Since then I have worshipped with a strictly anti-charismatic church for a few months)… guess what…I appreciate the hymns and the minister’s expository preaching.
God help us all